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      <title>is it easy to find a job in australia? replied by Melbournite @ Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:47:13 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;hi there, about yr Qn. melbourne, Sydney and pErth are capital
cities. u can study here if u intend to work part time. But if u
studied in low population areas , like Brisbane, Tas, and Adelaide,
u will get some extra points for PR.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There a lots of jobs available but getting what u want may be
difficult. Entry level jobs requiring manual labour are easy to get
if u have some
expereince.&amp;nbsp;sometimes&amp;nbsp;training&amp;nbsp;is&amp;nbsp;provided&amp;nbsp;if&amp;nbsp;u&amp;nbsp;are&amp;nbsp;a&amp;nbsp;freshie.
Examples being sales assistants, orderlies,
cleaners,&amp;nbsp;transport&amp;nbsp;men,&amp;nbsp;taxi&amp;nbsp;drivers ect. But
if u are looking for high end jobs, make sure u have a degree and a
PR&amp;nbsp;and&amp;nbsp;lots&amp;nbsp;of&amp;nbsp;experience. managerial or office
positions need knowledge in accoutancy, management ect. The
difference between Australia and Singapore is that Australian job
market is looking for people with skills and&amp;nbsp;work experience
,&amp;nbsp;not&amp;nbsp;cheap&amp;nbsp;unskilled&amp;nbsp;workers.
.&amp;nbsp;Your&amp;nbsp;work&amp;nbsp;expereince&amp;nbsp;may&amp;nbsp;not&amp;nbsp;be&amp;nbsp;in&amp;nbsp;that&amp;nbsp;field&amp;nbsp;but&amp;nbsp;they&amp;nbsp;will&amp;nbsp;give&amp;nbsp;recognition&amp;nbsp;for&amp;nbsp;prior&amp;nbsp;work&amp;nbsp;experience&amp;nbsp;if&amp;nbsp;its&amp;nbsp;related.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Its now harder to apply after the new post Sept 2007 rules.
However .However some "balancing acts" of the new immigration
scheme&amp;nbsp;are&amp;nbsp; in place like eg. work expereince and English
capability,&amp;nbsp; getting more points than before.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Overall, it has been revamped to
incorporate&amp;nbsp;more&amp;nbsp;tighter&amp;nbsp;relations&amp;nbsp;with&amp;nbsp;work,&amp;nbsp;study&amp;nbsp;and&amp;nbsp;expereince.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;Australian&amp;nbsp;residency&amp;nbsp;system&amp;nbsp;is&amp;nbsp;a&amp;nbsp;beast.&amp;nbsp;Its&amp;nbsp;highly&amp;nbsp;complicated&amp;nbsp;system&amp;nbsp;which&amp;nbsp;is&amp;nbsp;unforgiving.&lt;/strong&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
the&amp;nbsp;new&amp;nbsp;changes&amp;nbsp;after&amp;nbsp;Sept&amp;nbsp;2007&amp;nbsp;are&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;due&amp;nbsp;to&amp;nbsp;the&amp;nbsp;problem&amp;nbsp;of&amp;nbsp;students&amp;nbsp;who&amp;nbsp;graduated&amp;nbsp;after&amp;nbsp;studies&amp;nbsp;not&amp;nbsp;working&amp;nbsp;in&amp;nbsp;their&amp;nbsp;respective&amp;nbsp;fields&amp;nbsp;of&amp;nbsp;study&amp;nbsp;after&amp;nbsp;getting&amp;nbsp;permanent&amp;nbsp;residency.&amp;nbsp;This&amp;nbsp;causes&amp;nbsp;&#225;rtificial
and&amp;nbsp;unpredictable&amp;nbsp;changes&amp;nbsp;in&amp;nbsp;the&amp;nbsp;labour&amp;nbsp;market&amp;nbsp;and&amp;nbsp;certain&amp;nbsp;industries&amp;nbsp;where&amp;nbsp;labour&amp;nbsp;is&amp;nbsp;needed&amp;nbsp;are&amp;nbsp;not&amp;nbsp;benefitting&amp;nbsp;at&amp;nbsp;all&amp;nbsp;while&amp;nbsp;others&amp;nbsp;have&amp;nbsp;an&amp;nbsp;oversupply.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Though&amp;nbsp;independent&amp;nbsp;migration&amp;nbsp;(&amp;nbsp;where&amp;nbsp;u&amp;nbsp;apply&amp;nbsp;and&amp;nbsp;get&amp;nbsp;it&amp;nbsp;straight&amp;nbsp;away)&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;is&amp;nbsp;more&amp;nbsp;harder&amp;nbsp;now&amp;nbsp;,&amp;nbsp;(&amp;nbsp;its&amp;nbsp;never&amp;nbsp;been&amp;nbsp;easy&amp;nbsp;anyway)&amp;nbsp;,
there are certain aspects in place that may help students who study
in australia to get permanent residency. One is the TR - Temporary
Resident, whereby u have to work for a total of 900 hours in your
studied field to get PR. this helps those who are in trade studies
like Hairdressing, chef and mechanics or anything which is shortage
in Australia&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;. However for general non trade studies like eg. accountancy,
business, Engineering, U can still take the TR route but its risky
because u have to find
employment&amp;nbsp;during&amp;nbsp;the&amp;nbsp;TR&amp;nbsp;period and even so
riskier if your field of study is not in the skills shortage
list.&amp;nbsp;However&amp;nbsp;if&amp;nbsp;u&amp;nbsp;can&amp;nbsp;find&amp;nbsp;it,&amp;nbsp;u&amp;nbsp;have&amp;nbsp;to&amp;nbsp;find&amp;nbsp;it&amp;nbsp;when&amp;nbsp;u&amp;nbsp;are&amp;nbsp;still&amp;nbsp;studying&amp;nbsp;(&amp;nbsp;part&amp;nbsp;time&amp;nbsp;work)&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;since&amp;nbsp;the&amp;nbsp;TR&amp;nbsp;is&amp;nbsp;granted&amp;nbsp;to&amp;nbsp;u&amp;nbsp;for&amp;nbsp;only&amp;nbsp;18&amp;nbsp;months.&amp;nbsp;In&amp;nbsp;these&amp;nbsp;18&amp;nbsp;months&amp;nbsp;u&amp;nbsp;have&amp;nbsp;to&amp;nbsp;clock&amp;nbsp;900&amp;nbsp;hours&amp;nbsp;which&amp;nbsp;is&amp;nbsp;actually&amp;nbsp;less&amp;nbsp;than&amp;nbsp;a&amp;nbsp;year&amp;nbsp;if&amp;nbsp;u&amp;nbsp;worked&amp;nbsp;for&amp;nbsp;minimum
20&amp;nbsp;hours&amp;nbsp;per&amp;nbsp;week.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;In&amp;nbsp;all,&amp;nbsp;u&amp;nbsp;have&amp;nbsp;to&amp;nbsp;find&amp;nbsp;900&amp;nbsp;hours&amp;nbsp;work&amp;nbsp;either&amp;nbsp;during&amp;nbsp;your&amp;nbsp;studies&amp;nbsp;or&amp;nbsp;during&amp;nbsp;the&amp;nbsp;TR&amp;nbsp;which&amp;nbsp;u&amp;nbsp;apply&amp;nbsp;after&amp;nbsp;graduating
or both together in total. And this work have to be either related
to your studies or a pre existing skill u have before which no
necessarily be related to your course. Like eg,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;U&amp;nbsp;studied&amp;nbsp;Business&amp;nbsp;Finance&amp;nbsp;but u have a
Diploma in Engineering. u can classify the both as related as U may
be working for an engineering company in the future. But the work
for the 900 hours can come from your pre existing enginnering
qualification. &lt;strong&gt;Important thing is that both your studies
and work must be clsely related.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
another&amp;nbsp;way&amp;nbsp;is&amp;nbsp;employer&amp;nbsp;sponsored&amp;nbsp;PR&amp;nbsp;which&amp;nbsp;if&amp;nbsp;u&amp;nbsp;are&amp;nbsp;lucky&amp;nbsp;while&amp;nbsp;studying
and
working&amp;nbsp;or&amp;nbsp;during&amp;nbsp;th&amp;nbsp;TR&amp;nbsp;period&amp;nbsp;u&amp;nbsp;have&amp;nbsp;a&amp;nbsp;good&amp;nbsp;employer&amp;nbsp;who&amp;nbsp;likes
u...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
All&amp;nbsp;these&amp;nbsp;came&amp;nbsp;about&amp;nbsp;due&amp;nbsp;to&amp;nbsp;large&amp;nbsp;number&amp;nbsp;of&amp;nbsp;people
who were granted straight PRs after their 2 year study not working
in their relevant field of study.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
And&amp;nbsp;btw,&amp;nbsp;i&amp;nbsp;think&amp;nbsp;manager&amp;nbsp;and&amp;nbsp;administrators,&amp;nbsp;are&amp;nbsp;under&amp;nbsp;the&amp;nbsp;gazetted&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;list&amp;nbsp;of&amp;nbsp;60&amp;nbsp;points&amp;nbsp;in&amp;nbsp;Victoria&amp;nbsp;and&amp;nbsp;some&amp;nbsp;other&amp;nbsp;states&amp;nbsp;i&amp;nbsp;think&amp;nbsp;at&amp;nbsp;the&amp;nbsp;moment.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Your
course of study &amp;nbsp;may fall into this category and u have to
find employment in this category for 900 hours.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Considering&amp;nbsp;u&amp;nbsp;have&amp;nbsp;not&amp;nbsp;even&amp;nbsp;started&amp;nbsp;studying,&amp;nbsp;my&amp;nbsp;advice&amp;nbsp;to&amp;nbsp;u&amp;nbsp;is&amp;nbsp;dont&amp;nbsp;go&amp;nbsp;for&amp;nbsp;the&amp;nbsp;courses&amp;nbsp;which&amp;nbsp;u&amp;nbsp;want&amp;nbsp;PR&amp;nbsp;for&amp;nbsp;unless&amp;nbsp;u&amp;nbsp;very&amp;nbsp;sure&amp;nbsp;u&amp;nbsp;are&amp;nbsp;interested&amp;nbsp;in&amp;nbsp;it&amp;nbsp;.&amp;nbsp;Because&amp;nbsp;2&amp;nbsp;-3&amp;nbsp;years&amp;nbsp;later,&amp;nbsp;the&amp;nbsp;occupations&amp;nbsp;in&amp;nbsp;shortage&amp;nbsp;may&amp;nbsp;change&amp;nbsp;and&amp;nbsp;when&amp;nbsp;u&amp;nbsp;graduate&amp;nbsp;,&amp;nbsp;u&amp;nbsp;will&amp;nbsp;find&amp;nbsp;that&amp;nbsp;u&amp;nbsp;have&amp;nbsp;been&amp;nbsp;screwed.&amp;nbsp;So&amp;nbsp;do&amp;nbsp;what&amp;nbsp;u&amp;nbsp;want&amp;nbsp;to&amp;nbsp;do.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
I&amp;nbsp;have&amp;nbsp;seen&amp;nbsp;it&amp;nbsp;and&amp;nbsp;done&amp;nbsp;it&amp;nbsp;all&amp;nbsp;and&amp;nbsp;seen&amp;nbsp;others&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;before&amp;nbsp;an&amp;nbsp;was&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;in&amp;nbsp;your&amp;nbsp;situation&amp;nbsp;years&amp;nbsp;back.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Australia&amp;nbsp;is&amp;nbsp;not&amp;nbsp;the&amp;nbsp;only&amp;nbsp;place&amp;nbsp;u&amp;nbsp;can&amp;nbsp;go&amp;nbsp;to&amp;nbsp;work&amp;nbsp;or&amp;nbsp;live,&amp;nbsp;The&amp;nbsp;rest&amp;nbsp;of&amp;nbsp;the&amp;nbsp;world&amp;nbsp;are&amp;nbsp;at&amp;nbsp;yur&amp;nbsp;fingertips.&amp;nbsp;Good&amp;nbsp;luck&amp;nbsp;in&amp;nbsp;your&amp;nbsp;future&amp;nbsp;endeavours.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:47:13 +0800</pubDate>
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      <author>Melbournite</author>
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      <title>is it easy to find a job in australia? replied by Albeit relieve @ Mon, 23 Jun 2008 16:55:18 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;hi i am currently serving NS planning to enrol in uni of
melbourne for bachelor of commerce course. after that i guess i
will be working in banking industry and applying for permanent
residency. any1 knows whether is it easy to find a job in melbourne
even before getting your permanent residency?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 16:55:18 +0800</pubDate>
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      <author>Albeit relieve</author>
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